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Mountaintop Removal in Kentucky

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The Destruction of the Appalachian Mountains due to Mountaintop Removal Coal Mining
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This is 2018 and go mart in elkview is charging Kentucky for false information i was in the area and am a resident of West Virginia no way into Spencer West Virginia when traveling i79.
December 13, 2018 and there is also a 711 in there too sells makeuo and takes the wish app.
marymacka mac (3 months ago)
Solar, Solar, Solar. Stop destroying the planet for the almighty dollar. Wake up you folks in the mountains where their "mining' coal cause you eating it, drinking it and breathing it. Breaks my heart.
Justin Rose (3 years ago)
The pictures in this video isnt in ky. Just about everyone of them are in Va. MTR is a great!!!!
Kick The Can (5 months ago)
People. Have. To. Have. Coal. But. It. Ruins. The. Land . Nothing. About. Life. Makes. Any. Sense.
MM Mills (5 years ago)
Looks good to me, Good job guys, making useable land out of waste land....look around, the removal of coal has left some of the most valuable property, fishing ponds, hunting areas, home sites, runways,and commercial areas. I don't see the problem. This is just another video of the DURING process, the people who make these never show the after. 
Jessyca Conrad (3 years ago)
+MM Mills More like good job making the land toxic and much more prone to land slides and erosion. Good job destroying some of the most beautiful and diverse forests on earth. Good job in ruining miles of streams. Most mountaintop removal sites are not used for commercial development.
oldmtnfart (4 years ago)
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what are you like 8 years old? Does your parents know what you are doing?
Jewels (5 years ago)
+Julie Russell Let me add that I am NOT anti-coal. Being from southeastern KY, MANY of my family members were/are coal miners. Both my grandfathers began working in the mines before the age of 10. It was more than just 'work', it was a culture, a way of life. Now with MTR, not only are they destroying the mountains and the areas around them, they are doing it with MUCH less cost...MANY less employees and raking in more BILLIONS than ever.  
Jewels (5 years ago)
Apparently, you've never seen one of these areas either. My home county is featured in many of the pics in this video. The video came out in 2008. Here we are 6-7 years later and it still looks like this...or worse. What used to be a gorgeous area now looks like a bomb went off. They had heavy rainfall a couple years ago and because all the NATURAL barriers that used to be there are now gone, the town was nearly wiped out! As in GONE. It's a small town, but tons of people either LOST their homes or sustained so much damage that they had to be bull-dozed. Oh...and thanks to MTR, they also now have bears, wolves, bobcats, etc wondering around town because they've been pushed out of the mountains...you know...where they live and all?
yfz4501176 (5 years ago)
keep on MINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sol Smith (6 years ago)
Who ever don't like coal don't use lights they don't know what hard work is. what a pretty site it is to see the tops come off
Sheridan Luttrell (6 years ago)
Coal provides!!! Schools, homes, jobs but all you tree-huggers draw from the government!!!! How bout get off your lazy butt and work in a mine!!!!!
Sheridan Luttrell (6 years ago)
Stupid tree-huggers! My daddy makes his money off of coal just to put a roof over our heads and food on our plates!!! Coal keeps Kentucky running and I'm proud to say I support coal whether u like it or not! Why don't u go in a mine and see why coal is so important here! I you don't like coal, don't use electricity!!!!!
Tubes12AX7k (6 years ago)
Flooded with toxic heavy metals and acidic water.
Cameron Johnson (7 years ago)
At least the coal miner's work and provide for their families instead of laying around at the house on well fare. Friends of coal!
Thumbs up to ban mountain top Removal.
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@grizzly3883 As far as Nally & Hamilton, you might search for the video "Harlan County Fish Pond" about Elmer Lloyd, who lives below a Nally and Hamilton mine. There are coal companies that act responsibly, there is some land that has been put to good use after mining. But the vast majority of it - about 95 percent - is never developed, its just a wasteland. Without the trees and the forest, the communities below the mine get flooded.
grizzly3883 (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice and u also have the bennits amd nally and hamaltion which hamaliton is owned my tommy and steven hamaliton
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@mc3306 The mixed-mesophytic forests of Appalachia are the most biologically diverse temperate hardwood forests in the world. Replacing lush forests with fescue and lespedeza is a complete degradation of the ecosystems that provide wildlife habitat and fresh clean water to millions of people. I am aware of the Stonecrest golf course, the airports, the prisons and the elk - the elk program is a greenwashing program by the coal companies and Fish and Wildlife cronies to make MTR look good.
mitchcopley (7 years ago)
Why don't you show the finished and reclaimed sites? The ones where we've built housing developments, golf courses, sports complexes, airports, etc. Showing these pictures is like someone showing pictures of a surgeon's work in the middle of an operation. It looks gruesome, but after the operation is complete and the patient has recovered, it looks good. Also, the elk population that thrived in this region, Eastern Kentucky, has been returned thanks to mountain top development.
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@VTWIN2005 Welcome to the You Tube soap box. Thanks for your comments. Just to be clear, I am adamantly opposed to mountaintop removal mining. As far as property rights, everyone is for the right to do with their own property whatever they want ... until their neighbor decides to start a scrap metal yard next door. The problem with this mining is that folks living below the mine are getting flooded, because there are no trees to soak up the rainfall.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice I'm sure if the law read how you wish it did, tree huggers like you would be in front of the Courts attempting to have them enforced.Citizens are "concerned" because they don't have a slice of the pie. I'm sure you mean well with the attempt to inform about the different ground covers, rest assure I do my homework. If Kentucky 31 fits my needs, that is what I will use. Scare tactics don't work with me. With more than 8 generations in Kentucky, I'm sure we know what is native.
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@MsRailroader Many aspects of SMCRA have not been enforced since it was enacted in 1977. Thats one reason why so many citizens are concerned with mountaintop removal. If you are considering reclaiming your land with grass like Kentucky 31 fescue, be sure and research Fescue Toxicosis, which is caused by a fungus that grows on some fescue. It causes abortions in pregnant mares and other health problems in beef cattle. Despite its name, Kentucky 31 Fescue is not native to Kentucky.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice Unless you are a Mineral Rights Attorney or a Federal Judge, you do not have the knowledge base to make an opinion on one section of this law.I know you really want what you believe to be true, but it's not. Take a moment and call the department that is responsible for enactment of this law.They are in the best position to tell you how it reads. At least when you find your wrong, you will know the truth.Do you really believe this law has been blatantly ignored for over 30 years?
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice LOL OK, think whatever you want.You are attempting to read a manual that you obviously do not comprehend.Please call The Division of Abandoned Mine Lands for Reclamation.Pose the question to the ACTUAL DEPARTMENT that handles it.Mr. Petrey is able to answer your questions (606)330-2085.I DO know that MY LAND is being reclaimed as I SEE FIT.FLAT and GRASS.MY land, MY choice.Talk to the actual dept. You're not going to like what he says.At least you will have the facts.OK bye bye
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@MsRailroader This is incorrect. I just read the 1977 federal surface mining law SMCRA and it makes no distinction between federally-owned and private lands. All land must be reclaimed according to SMCRA. The land must be covered with a "diverse, effective, and permanent vegetative cover of the same seasonal variety native to the area of land to be affected and capable of self-regeneration and plant succession at least equal in extent of cover to the natural vegetation of the area" (p. 82)
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice Too Funny. I know how its spelled and HARLEM NEW YORK CITY is NOT A TOWN. Yes, you are an outsider. You do not have any relations to mining nor do you own any land that is being mined. I would also bet you MOVED to Kentucky not too long ago. I'm enjoying them turning my mountain top into flat usable land. I also enjoy the LARGE SUMS OF CASH I have received. Keep crying, it will never stop. You have NO SAY in what people do with THEIR land. =D
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@MsRailroader - its HARLAN not Harlem! Harlem is in New York City. The city in Kentucky where they mine coal is spelled H-A-R-L-A-N. And thanks but Im not an outsider, I live in Kentucky. The real outsiders are ICG (owned by billionaire Wilbur Ross of New York City), Peabody Coal (based in St Louis) and Arch Coal (based in St Louis). Massey is based in Richmond Virginia, 300 miles from the coalfields.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice You made my point, you are not a miner. You do not understand the conditions. Bloody Harlem was to bring in the union to force the companies to adhere to proper safety rules AND to provide adequate living arraignments. I don't need a documentary, I can just speak with family. And as far as my cousin, he'll learn to keep his head down. Not all injuries in the mines are because of the company. You do realize MTM will not stop. Only outsiders like you don't want it.
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@MsRailroader - Come on. Underground miners are usually afraid to report safety violations because if they do, they will be fired. If there are miners showing up for work in an intoxicated condition, that is terrible. No one should be operating such dangerous machinery while intoxicated. I worked 20 years in industry and this kind of thing was never tolerated at any factory that I worked at. But I dont see what this has to do with mountaintop removal being a bad thing ...
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@MsRailroader Im not a miner, and Im sorry about your cousin. It was called "Bloody Harlan" (not Harlem) because the coal companies were using violence (gun thugs) to keep the miners from organizing a union in the 1920's - not because of injuries in the mines - although of course there were many more injuries and deaths back then. You might appreciate the documentary film "Harlan County USA," you can watch the trailer on You Tube. Great film.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice I'm curious, are you a miner? How many in your family are? If you say no or none, then you really can't make comments about mining. My 1st cousin was just injured in a mine accident. Thats the recent. My Grandpa was in Bloody Harlem, thats the past. My own father left the mines so don't try to preach mine safety to me. Miners know what they are in for when they leave that sunshine behind. Instead of trying to stop mining,which you cant, why not fight the real issue, black lung.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice How many of the workers reported these violations or refused to work with violations in place? It's not only the CEO of the mines, but the actions of the miners just trying to feed and house their families. How many workers show up stoned or drunk? Many. How many are sent home? None. I'm from a long line of miners. Ask a miner if they would rather work on top or underground. Says it all.And tell me how you are powering up your computer. By magic? Nuclear or Coal? I choose coal.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice Sorry, as relayed by The Division of Abandoned Mine Lands for Reclamation: It is the PROPERTY OWNER'S decision/choice to either have the property reclaimed or not, and if so to the PROPERTY OWNER'S satisfaction. What you speak of is mining on GOVERNMENT OWNED lands. Please make a call and verify this information so you know the facts for yourself. That is one of the "benefits" to have your land coaled, usable flat plantable/livestock grassland after.
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@MsRailroader - The law (SMCRA) requires the land to be reclaimed to a "higher and better condition" than previous to the mining. It also requires a "diverse vegetative cover." Turning forests into grasslands is a violation of federal law.
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@MsRailroader - There was a terrible accident at the UBB mine in WV last year, a Massey mine that had hundreds of safety violations. Massey's greedy CEO Don Blankenship cares more about profits than worker safety. In 2009, 2008 and 2007 there were actually more deaths at surface mines than at underground mines. See my video "Walker CAT says Yes Coal" for photos of accidents at surface mines.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice And underground mining is 50% less effective yielding on average 50-60% of the coal where as 90% with mountain top. It is also WAY more dangerous for the workers with death being ever present, unlike with mountaintop mining. I take it you prefer a pretty tree than a live worker.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@mountainjustice And underground mining is 50% less effective yielding on average 50-60% of the coal. It is also WAY more dangerous for the workers with death being ever present, unlike with mountaintop mining. I take it you prefer a pretty tree than a live worker.
MsRailroader (7 years ago)
@stanford70 The land is reclaimed how the owner of the surface states. If the owner of the land wants flat seeded land when they are done, that is how it is left. If they want it treed then it is. You should be looking at some of the land owners if you don't like the way it looks.
mountainjustice (7 years ago)
@stanford70 - Right, the are required by the surface mining law SMCRA to restore the land to a "higher and better condition" with a "diverse vegetative cover." Unfortunately this is not happening - they only hydroseed the mine site, usually with non-native species like fescue. They are supposed to plant trees, but industry pressure on government regulators allows them to get away with improper reclamamtion. For more info, google the "Appalachian Regional Reforestation Initiative"
Captain Insano (7 years ago)
it seems the only pictures you have is while and right after they are mining. laws states they have to reclaim the land
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@tra612 - Hunting, gathering mushrooms, ramps, ginseng, black cohosh, yellow root, plus providing clean water for fishing. These mountains provide drinking water for much of the eastern US, including the Ohio River, a drinking water source for 3 million people, and the Cumberland River, Nashville's water. Atlanta and Charlotte almost ran out of water a few years ago. Once they mine the mountain, the springs dry up.
chuck caldwell (8 years ago)
The land is no good for anyhing, it is so steep that you cannot walk it so why not mine it but have strict laws to protect the enviorment
Billy Turner (8 years ago)
@jamesthemaniac You honestly don't believe that. You believe there is a more economic solution? Your saying there is something that could produce a cheaper energy? Do you know how much tax dollars are spent "researching" green energies? We will be mining you will be whining its just life. You balance the logic people that work with your madness and hippie deadbeat politics. Al Gore created the internet too...
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@rickjames812 - Appalachian coal can be mined using underground mining instead of mountaintop removal. Heavy equipment workers on strip sites can be put to work reclaiming the land and fixing past damage to streams. This plan will create many new jobs since underground mining is much more labor-intensive than mountaintop removal, and improve water quality for all Kentuckians for fishing, swimming and drinking.
jamesthemaniac (8 years ago)
@wturner0018 Nuclear Power, Wind Power, Solar Power, geothermal, methane, the list goes on. but as long as coal lobbyists keep paying the right senators, the money that could go to researching other alternatives gets diverted to coal companies and the regulators are told to "be nice"
Billy Turner (8 years ago)
@jamesthemaniac If there was a perfectly viable alternative energy source then we wouldn't have you to protest. There isn't another option that is why there are coal mines. I am also a college student...
Billy Turner (8 years ago)
@JeffisfromKentucky where do you work?
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@TheDirtWarriors - Yep. But its nice talking with you dude. I appreciate that you dont shout at me like most of the posters below.
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@TheDirtWarriors - The impacts of this kind of mining affect the quality of life for surrounding property owners through increased noise, blasting, flooding, dust etc - as well as the quality of water for the people who like to fish or drink the water downstream. Property rights arguments do not apply to this situation.
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@MrKycoalminer - Thanks for the insults. Less than 10 percent of Americas coal comes from mt top removal mines. Americans use 4 times as much energy per capita than Eurpoeans, yet we have a lower quality of life. Im sure that you can look around and see electricity being wasted in your town - lights left on in empty buildings, poorly insulated houses and trailers, old appliances. We need green jobs for Appalachia, fixing old mine damage and weatherizing homes.
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@paddlefoot12001 - The Juvenile Detention Center in London was built on a reclaimed strip site. The land under the building is subsiding and so they had to close the multi-million dollar facility. It is now vacant.
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@TheDirtWarriors - In 1960 there were over 120,000 miners in WV. Todays its less than 15,000. This loss of employment was caused by the coal industry's mechanization, not by Al Gore or the tree huggers. Meanwhile, areas of America that use the beauty of mountains to promote tourism-related economic development, such as east TN (i.e. Gatlinburg) and western NC are full of wealthy people, while the coal counties of WV and KY are some of the poorest counties in America.
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@TheDirtWarriors - Your figures are wildly inaccurate. According to Dept of Labor statistics, 80,600 people are employed in coal mining nationally, but only about 7000 work on surface mines in West Va, and about 6000 in Kentucky. Mountain Justice does not oppose underground mining, only mt top removal and steep slope strip mining. The damage to roads annually from coal transporation is estimated at over $1 billion dollars annually.
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@OriginalDamnYankee - Its absurd to claim that acid rain from coal-burning power plants is not a problem. Go to upstate New York and test the lakes for pH. Coal is not so cheap when you figure in the costs of damaged roads, lowered human life expectancy, flooding ... who pays for FEMA to come in after the floods - not the coal companies - the taxpayers do. Who pays to clean up the water so its safe to drink for those of us downstream? Not the coal companies - the taxpayers do.
Melissa Booth (8 years ago)
I find it interesting that those who are so vehemently opposed do NOT live here. They claim they are suffering from acid rain yet have no science to back it up. They make many, many claims but never have any science to back it up. Point of fact, coal is cheaper than many other forms of electricity. It is also one of our most plentiful resources. Indeed, I am quite certain many of our environmental kookie friends would not be happy with any method. We have seen it happen time and again.
famousPhotog (8 years ago)
@bigapple2625 So you are thankful that KY coal mining companies are unwilling to pursue modern cleaner methods of generating electricity, and are therefore destroying not only Kentucky, but also the NY Adirondacks with the acid rain caused by the burning of coal? Is this what you are saying, because most New Yorkers are NOT happy about this?!
famousPhotog (8 years ago)
@kirbienstien Would you rather have a job in a different field or would you rather contribute to the extinction of mankind on planet Earth? That's the real question!
famousPhotog (8 years ago)
@EastKyMiner21 Thank you for posting this, as it is just further proof that those who support mining are uneducated and can't read. I have already stated that I am off-the-grid and do not rely upon outside sources for electricity. And generally, I ride a bicycle to work. So, where are you trying to go with your comments? Waiting..........
famousPhotog (8 years ago)
@pumpy25 The manner in which coal is mined using mountain top removal requires far fewer miners than traditional tunnel mining, and that's why the coal companies have moved toward MTR. The coal companies don't exist to hire miners, they exist to take advantage of the poorly educated and to make a profit doing so, and to keep America in the 19th century as long as possible.
mountainjustice (8 years ago)
@famousPhotog - dont be too hard on them. People in the coalfields are inundated daily with billboards, TV and radio advertisements, even the public schools tell people every day how good coal is for them. Most people just cant think for themselves, they just do whatever the TV tells them to.
famousPhotog (8 years ago)
And no, I do not use any coal to power anything in my off-the-grid house or my completely off-the grid business, a business that employs over 125 people. So dont bother posting that there are no solutions, because I am living the solution everyday!
famousPhotog (8 years ago)
Based upon the illogical, self-centered, selfish, short-sighted, delusional, ignorant, unethical, unimaginative, misinformed, and deliberately misleading comments posted by those in favor of turning Gods mountains into moon surfaces and excusing such acts as necessary, many coal miners must be gullible to CEO lies or totally uneducated or just evil opportunists who do not give a damn about clean air and water and animal habitats.
D ALLEN (9 years ago)
Coal companies rape the earth, plain and simply. 50% of coal come from strip mining simply because they can use bigger equipment to haul more. Alternative fuels are available, I use solar and generate more than enough for my home, in fact I send power back to the city of Lexington. My wife is from Floyd county and it breaks her heart to go home and see the destruction of the beautiful land she grew up on. Take a trip to Manchester, London, shame, shame, shame...
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Why would you refer to Gods Creation as "useless"? It provides pure drinking water to millions of people downstream, not to mention habitat for hunting, fishing, hiking ... Reclaimed mine sites are useless to build upon - the land subsides. Just look at the (empty) Juvenile Detention Center in London KY - cant be used due to subsidence. Also the Big Sandy Prison in KY, school in McDowell County WV, Holiday Inn in Hazard KY - all have had major structural problems.
KLS (9 years ago)
Hey Americans, the world is watching you! It´s my world, too. Please dont destroy it. Thank you Greetings from Germany
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
the Prenter well water is contaminated from underground slurry injection, not runoff. I am not aware of anyone saying the creek water is contaminated. Apparently the aquifer is far enough below the drainage that it hasnt contaminated the creek.
Jimmy Tate (9 years ago)
I have questions, if the water in Prenter is bad from run-off, then what about the creek? The WV DNR stock trout in that stream. Trout can't survive in polluted streams, yet they thrive in that one. I was just wondering if anyone can explain how some ground water is contaminated, and some is not.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Slurry impoundments are not necessary. Coal companies can use dry press equipment, such as the belt presses manufactured by Phoenix Processing to remove liquid from the slurry. The semi-dry waste can be handled safely without building impoundments. How do you feel about the 125 people killed at Buffalo Creek?
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
I know people in Prenter too. Maybe you can talk to Jennifer Hall Massey and you can tell her how funny it is that her kids are sick from bad water, they cant get water in their mouths when they bathe - and they cant sell their house.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Did you watch the New York Times video? Which part about people getting sick is funny to you? The problems with the water there have been well documented, in newspapers as well as the internet.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Well you claimed to know what we think ... but it turns out that you have never even talked to an environmentalist in KY. In afct there is not one environmental group in Kentucky that wants to stop underground mining. We want it done safely to protect the miners ... but we dont want to stop it. We are against mountaintop removal.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Please give me the name of one environmentalist in Kentucky who wants to stop underground coal mining.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Search You Tube for "NY Times Toxic Waters Coal in the Water" to see a video of people from Prenter. Their health is very bad.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Why do you hate our mountains? Most Kentuckians are proud of our states natural beauty, but you apparently hate Gods creation, according to your screen name.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Coal Miner - I dont know one person in Kentucky who doesnt support coal mining. But many Kentuckians are opposed to mountaintop removal mining. We are not opposed to underground mining, which will bring back a lot of jobs and put our miners to work. We support miners! The problem is that our leaders and the fake phony public relations group "FACES of Coal" are telling miners that we are "against coal." Its not true, dont believe these wicked liars.
Harry Bryant (9 years ago)
So, we destroy one of God's mountains for 12 inches of coal! Leave it there and build a wind farm.
Harry Bryant (9 years ago)
Deep mines will continue. Mountaintop mines gotta go. And, face facts folks, coal is dirty from start to finish and will, God willing, be replaced soon with clean energy which will furnish jobs for miners that will be long lasting and safer.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Coal mining is an important part of Kentucky's history. Mountain Justice supports underground mining, we are opposed to mountaintop removal mining and valley fills. We are also opposed to poisoning the public water supply. The coal industry is contaminating our rivers and streams with black water. Are you a supporter of poisoned water for the families and children of Kentucky?
michaelispan (9 years ago)
I met some of you guy's at Wisteria's Cornstalk festival . Keep up the good work! Subscribed.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Kentucky
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
The Sunday Aug 16 Lexington Herald Leader article about mine reclamation said that only about 2-3 percent of the reclaimed mines have any industrial or residential development. 78 percent has been left as grassland. So we dont need more flat land for development, we have almost 500,000 acres in Appalachia already flattened and waiting for Wal Mart or General Motors to build their new factory.
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Maybe we all could just use less electricity? I havent had the central air conditioning on all summer. My electric bill last month was only $25 (we live in a small brick ranch house in KY). So Im saving money while helping the mountains and the air. And now with the new LED light bulbs at Wal Mart we our energy bills will be even lower. Tip - plant shade trees around your house. They will keep your house cooler and lower your energy bill.
zappamannn (9 years ago)
You would blow up the moon if someone would pay you. MTR is destroying Appalachian mountains, poisoning water, and endangering children and adult's health... but you don't care because you got a bonus last month. Your family should have to bathe in Prenter Holler's water... then you might care.
FloydCountyKy (9 years ago)
Solid Rock. I know people that have built homes on MTR sites, they have huge holding tanks for water, above ground sewers and trees won't grow in the few inches of overlaying dirt. Now wishing they hadn't built on rock. I live in KY and coal miners in my family. I'm also coal owner and will not sign any contracts for MTR. That should tell you people something. I grew up with coal of all sources. Any fool can see what MTR is doing. Water in our homes is nasty. Can we live without clean water?
mountainjustice (9 years ago)
Desolate - please keep in mind that mountaintop removal provides only 4 percent of America's coal supply - we can do deep mining which will provide more jobs than MTR - we already have over 500,000 acres of flattened mountains, we dont need more flat land - we need to focus on attracting tourism jobs and second home buildiers in our beautiful KY mountains - like they are doing in TN and NC - thanks
bapyou (9 years ago)
"the majority of the people who complain about mountaintop removal doesn't even live in an area affected" This is a lie. You would do well to read up on the many efforts of native West Virginians and Kentuckians who have struggled against the rapacious mine owners. Go to Amazon(dot)com and type in mountaintop removal. You will get a list of numerous books written by or about natives of Appalachian coal country. You're just a liar. And you are not informed at all about this topic.
bapyou (9 years ago)
"i have family memebers that worked in the coal mines" And many miners were out of a job because they were union members. Have you read the book 'Coal River' by Michael Shnayerson? I suggest you do. It's about Don Blankenship (WV mine owner) and his shady business pratices. It's not just the environmental concerns that are an issue, it's also labor issues. Blankenship would buy a mine, shut it down, and wait for the union contract to run out. Then he would reopen only hiring non-union men.
Karl Heide (10 years ago)
no there definetely aren't enough restrictions cause if there were this wouldn't be happening. It's corruption at its best. It is a direct violation of the clean water, and the fact that George Bush was able to overrule such an act is very disturbing to me. If our laws aren't secure, what the hell is?
Billy Turner (10 years ago)
My point is that the majority of the people who complain about mountaintop removal doesn't even live in an area affected or has never worked in the coal industry. All you people do is look for something to growl about. If it wasn't mining coal it would be something else. Don't you think the federal goverment has enough restrictions on us as it is?
mountainjustice (10 years ago)
Can it be done responsibly? I think that is the question. What is our obligation to the people who will be living in Kentucky one thousand years from now - should we just leave them a wasteland of flattened mountains and ruined streams?
Billy Turner (10 years ago)
Everything is either MINED OR GROWN...
Karl Heide (10 years ago)
congratulations Karrowt, that's by far the most evil, prejudiced, disrespectful, self-centered remark I have ever heard. You deseve to be shot. It's your own fellow citizens you're trashing. I'm beginning to hope mountaintop removal continues just so that the toxic water will flow downstream into Massachusetts and flood your town and drown you in black coal slurry.
Benjamin Stewart (10 years ago)
that doesnt mean that he would have done it
fizzybgood (10 years ago)
Same here - both of my grandfathers were coal miners. When people call me a tree hugger, I have to laugh, because it tells me that they haven't figured it out yet and they probably never will. It's regular folks who are fighting MTR, not just "tree huggers." My concern isn't so much for the environment itself, but how it affects the people living in it.
fizzybgood (10 years ago)
Right. In the areas that they are mining where my family live, they aren't hiring ANY of the locals. They are bringing in outside contractors. Yes, the people up there need jobs, but since MTR got started real heavy up there, the mining jobs have steadily dried up.
fizzybgood (10 years ago)
West Virginia and flat land do not belong in the same sentence. My family lives up there because they love the mountains. If they wanted flat land, they would move away. Also, I have yet to see a reclaimed MTR site that had even a tenth as much diversity of life as it did before the mountain was taken down. I don't much care for strip malls, either, but it's still quite different than taking down an entire mountain.
mountainjustice (10 years ago)
John McCain promised to end mountaintop removal at a town hall meeting in Florida
qizhong8 (10 years ago)
this song makes me cry....
lisha007 (10 years ago)
I agree coal miners deserve high paying jobs for the dangerous work they are doing, but mountaintop removal is not the best way
lisha007 (10 years ago)
There are other ways to extract coal---this is an extreme form of strip mining that is cheaper and more destructive. Not to mention the sludge containment dams which could break at any moment taking out homes and schools. The sludge in those dams is something like 5 times more disgusting than crude oil.
stuntcat666 (10 years ago)
it's the most beautiful place in the world to me. This is the biggest shame, it's just wasting the old hills for like a day's worth of energy.
Jerry Moody (10 years ago)
Super job Dave! Keep up the great work. Talk-Action=Nothing Jerry
qizhong8 (10 years ago)
This song is very moving. The sceneary is heartbreaking.

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